Condor

[michaelds]

In any case lots of discussions where made on the IBIS, Evofinder and Condor Poisc (last one one is of questionable funcionalty even as it has the same origin as the original Condor)
What Iam  to try is to say is that someone should put all this 3 systems or any otheres in one place with a commity of independent judges and have all three systems worked under same conditions to see what is worth the money and what not.
Lots of talking is done and especially the newer examiners suffer from influence form manufactureres with mockup results and old data and information. These toys are expensive gentlemen and once you bought the wrong one you are stuck with it and the politicans will have your ..... if you dont make it work. I made very extensive research and I have a opinion however Iam open to discuss the matter, maybe Iam biased but I would like to see facts from other users from other systems, not how many they sold but the results.
the matter is that we are dealing here with crimes and not simple buisnessissues, each bullet each case not identified by  a system means one conviction less. Rise of population, social problems will rise the demand of eficiency of forensics and the aproach to make a fast buck on this and have a bad gear for it its the wrong aproach. Try something new, you may be surprised, but if you do, try them all and then you will serve your government well in choosing the best, be flexible and trust your own eyes and judgement and not pretty pictures and propaganda which maybe true or maybe not.

[michaelds]

You re welcome. Anyone who wants more info, please  send email to Scott Doyle, he got my private email.
Please only firearms examiners  

[Scott Doyle]

Here are the two images that Michael sent to me. Click on them to see a larger view.

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Very interesting system.  I hope to see it live and in use someday.

Scott

[michaelds]

2 images where sent via your helpdesk line, please feel free to use them , in case you require more info please dont hesitate to contact me via the email indicated in the helpdesk request

[michaelds]

I will get you the pictures as well authorization from the manufacturer to disclose details of the countrys which aquired the system and where its actually substituted the IBIS. Here in Brazil the System now called Evofinder obtained more sucesses than the IBIS especially on the identification of bullets which is the Achilles heal of IBIS. I studied extensivly the Hitsucesses of Ibis and I really would like a simple and crude competition of both systems under same conditions with high volume of bullets/cases

I used the Scanner which weighs 6kg and has half of the size of a normal PC under the most harsh conditions and it still works. Personally I invite everyone to see the system working and actually use my database of 1000 bullets/ cases and search one particular bullet in it which I stock with our evidence.

Obviously I will only respond to official requests which will be replied on a official local goverment email.

[Scott Doyle]

Any pictures of the system?  I would like to see how your system compares to the system used here in the US (IBIS).

Thanks,

Scott

[michaelds]

If you are still interested I made already a database with Evofinder/ Condor with sucess
more than 1000 guns, serialnumbers in sequence, same models,
average search/identificationtime 3minutes
Tests remade after use of gun after one year with results still  positive identification

[mvster2]

If you are still looking for a ballistic identification system then have a look this:
http://www.papillon.ru/eng/7/

[goodguy]

I get the same probelms! Waiting for good idea! Thanks!

[Scannbi]

Dear Kempo,
I understand that my reply is too late. I only at the moment have found this request concerning info about CONDOR system.
I am inventor of the systems CONDOR (now EVOFINDER).
If you are still interesting in obtaining the info, contact me directly:
office@scannbi.spb.ru

Michael Derenovsky

[Scott Doyle]

Kempo,

I'm sorry but I've never heard of Condor.  It must be a European system.  If you find any detailed information on it please provide a link to me.

Thanks,

Scott Doyle

[Kempo]

I was wondering if anybody aside from web page give me any information about Condor. Our country is looking for ballistics identifications system - we have over 900,000 weapons to register.

condor say their algorithms are much better than ibis - is this true ?

do they have 3D ?

 also, they say that they are expert with large data base

can any body advise ?